
On Saturday, February 18, David Neff spoke for one of ten annual lectures that the San Diego Adventist Forum coordinates at the Tierrasanta Seventh-day Adventist Church. Each lecture features a new speaker addressing various topics related to the Adventist Church. Neff’s lecture is the first of the 2012 series.
Neff, who earned a B.A. from La Sierra University and a Master of Divinity from Andrews University, currently serves as editor-in-chief for Christianity Today, an evangelical publication focused on Christian leadership. He has also pastored Churches in the Southeastern California Conference and at Walla Walla University.
Neff’s address, titled “A Better World: How compassion and justice can flourish alongside eschatology” posed a central question: can various end times views coexist and can they encourage the creation of a better world?
Beginning his lecture, Neff described himself as “inescapably an eschatological Christian,” and proceeded to define eschatology as a study of the end of the world or the end of human kind. Jokingly, he also included the definition of scatology, careful to make sure that audience members didn’t confuse the terms.
Neff said that the church encouraged him to fear the end of times as a child. The same was true for his daughters, who, looking at a blackened sky in Washington on May 18, 1980, thought the end had come. In reality, Mount St. Helen had erupted, obscuring the sky with volcanic ash.
Neff said that fear, like the fear the end times caused him and his daughters, can motivate people, but it can also damage them. “Today, I want to talk about eschatology that does not do damage,” he said.
Neff continued, saying, “Eschatology is not optional.” He introduced the various forms of eschatology, beginning with Martin Buber’s Prophetic and Apocalyptic taxonomy. Neff described the Prophetic category as one in which every person’s action may participate in redemption. The Apocalyptic category, conversely, sees humans as mere tools, the fate of the world being predetermined and immovable.
Next, he included Reginald Stackhouse’s three-part eschatological taxonomy: Millennial, Pastoral, and Social. Neff used Ellen G. White’s eschatological views as an example of the Millennial category, described the Pastoral category as a personal, individual category, and defined the Social category of the taxonomy as a view that involves human activities as integral to the end times.
Neff argued that Buber and Stackhouse’s taxonomies are compatible, offering that they are both biblical. The challenge, however, comes in integrating them. Adventists, he argues, seem to succeed in layering these various taxonomies. Though Adventist eschatology is essentially apocalyptic or Millennial, anticipating the second coming of Christ wholly transforming the current earth, the establishment of Adventist educational and medical institutions evidence Adventist’s contribution to a better present world.
To investigate further the process of eschatological layering, Neff explored Jesus’ mission, which included both preaching the kingdom and healing: judicial and a compassionate actions. “Biblical eschatology is not about the end, but the goal,” Neff said, clarifying that the Greek root eschato means “outcome” rather than “end.”
This distinction relates to a view of human activity as essential to eschatology. Neff combined this idea with ecology, referring to a case study titled “Eschatology and Creation” that he delivered at Walla Walla University, one of many addresses he has delivered to universities on the topic. Neff used the analogy of an engagement ring to relate the importance of the environment to eschatology. When a man gives an engagement ring to a woman, it is merely the “carrier of promise,” not the actual marriage. In the same way, the environment is the carrier of God’s promise; it is not the final goal, but inherently valuable and indicative of the final goal.
Neff summarized this ecological connection in terms of combining the Millennial and Social eschatological categories, thus drawing together the initial taxonomic portion of his lecture with the latter ecological discussion. He includes seven helpful ideas that this view of eschatology provides:
In summary, Neff said: providing that all humans share a common eschatological goal—people in Bangladesh and in Manhattan, the wealthy and the poor—they are part of the same community.
In the question and answer period following the lecture, an audience member asked Neff to comment on a Holocaust survivor’s statement that there can be no God after Auschwitz, the location of heinous acts of human destruction and cruelty. Neff responded by saying “My Christian faith tells me that, even in these places, there are glimpses of divine grace,” concluding that this problem increases the importance of considering the human connection to the apocalypse and the resultant human responsibility for each other and for the environment.
Neff admitted that both choosing an eschatological category and combining multiple categories can be difficult, but we cannot ignore the process; we must engage it.
Those interested in purchasing a recording of David Neff’s address will soon be able to do so at www.sandiegoadventistforum.org/sandiego/lectures.
—Patrick Garrett York is a College Writing Instructor at La Sierra University.
Jesus' activities of "preaching and healing" are not separate, but focused on His one mission -the "dawning reign of God". Certainly we see a compassionate Jesus; but we cant mistake the acts of compassion as being His mission. In Jesus' mind, His works of healing were to identify WHO He is by quoting Isaiah 35 and 61:
Now when John had heard in prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples and said unto him: Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? Jesus answered and said unto them: GO AND SHEW JOHN AGAIN THOSE THINGS WHICH YE DO HEAR AND SEE: THE BLIND RECEIVE THEIR SIGHT AND THE LAME WALK, THE LEPERS ARE CLEANSED AND THE DEAF HEAR, THE DEAD ARE RAISED UP, AND THE POOR HAVE THE GOSPEL PREACHED TO THEM. Matt. 112-5.
In Jesus' mind, the healing was part of His gospel message - the coming reign of God; and the proof was in the miracles.
SDAF no longer hosts 10 lectures per year. It is currently 4/year, or thereabouts.
What are the major causes of people fearing the end times?
The pain and suffering in the time of trouble even if you are ultimately saved.
My grandma was a devout Adventist and lover of Jesus. She knew she was right with God, but she also knew of aa the persecutions and executions and torture of people through history. She looked forward to the glory but dreaded the possibility of being physically and emotionally tortured in the time of trouble and wished god would lay her to rest before then.
Sure god might help people make it through tough times, but he doesn't take the pain and suffering away and it can be tortuously hellish. I know from experience.
“Biblical eschatology is not about the end, but the goal,” Neff said, clarifying that the Greek root eschato means “outcome” rather than “end.”
----I love this...another example of learning to see the final judgement in a positive way. The positive description of God's nature as revealed in our understanding of the state of the dead, what hell is, and the final judgement are the things that most attracted me to Adventism.
I remember once hearing a rabbi espouse on the story of Abraham and Isaac. It was pointed out that the word (chorbanot - don't know how it is spelled...but never forgot how it sounds) is the word that we translate into English as 'sacrifice'. But the problem is that the English word begins with a negative connotation. The Hebrew word is entirely positive. It literally means, something that draws you closer.
These little differences in perception can make a big difference in how we view the big picture.
Eschatology is the study of end time events or the summation of a fallen sinful state to the establishment of a new perfect Creation. Given that perspective, The Eschaton was inaugurated at the Cross and will be consummated at the Parusia.
That is the message of the Three Angels of Revelation 14. They carry the message that Babylon has fallen. The claims of Satan have been refuted; his “kings” have failed in silencing God. God is neither dead nor irrelevant.
With the resurrection, ascension, and installation of Christ as our High Priest the hour of judgment has come. “Once to every man and nation comes the moment to decide.” That moment, that once, began at Pentecost not October 22, 1844. It certainly was perfectly clear to the First Century Christians living under the rule of Nero et al.
What is the issue to be decided: It is parallel to the third temptation of Jesus: to gain the world through worship of Lucifer. From Augustine through Nero and beyond, the Caesars claimed to be the “Sons of God!” Then a carpenter in a tiny outpost of the Roman Empire claimed that He was the Son of God! That issue could not stand unchallenged.
Thus the eschatological question was raised. Who is worthy of worship and why? The New Testament sets forth the argument for Christ. Emperors use the power of the sword to persuade otherwise.
John’s disciples asked Jesus that question: “Are you the One, or shall we look for another?” Jesus said: “Stay and watch!” They stayed and watched and reported back to John. It was enough. One day of watching Jesus, healing, comforting, teaching, and reassuring a peasant population scorned by both religious leaders and the power elite of Rome.
Will there be a final generation that takes Him at His Word: “I am the Son of God, he that cometh unto Me, I will in no wise cast out!”
That is the Eschatological Challenge.
Tom Z
David Neff and his wife's conversion story to Anglican church is found in the book
"Evangelicals on the Canterbury Trail"
You can read it on google books.
http://books.google.com/books?id=rGiJPyVotAIC&pg=PA149&dq="david+neff"adventist&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_BhET_DrJtHKiAKY-ZHjDg&ved=0CEgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%
Thanks for the correction. The source for the number of lectures (10) comes from the forum's recently launched and updated website. The page is copyrighted 2012. You can access the page here:
http://sandiegoadventistforum.org/node/278
The page reads:
"The ten regular annual SDAF meetings have been designed primarily for progressive, open-minded SDAs of the Southwest corner of these United States."
—P.G. York
Correct me if I'm wrong.
David Neff is a Presbyterian and his wife, Yvonne Neff, is Catholic. ''Evangelicals on the Canterbury Trail" tells the story of their transition from Adventism. Yvonne is a well-known writer in her own right. Her father, Orval Pease, was a seminary professor at Andrews University when the seminary transitioned there from Takoma Park.
David & LaVonne became Episcopalians as described in the book. LaVonne later joined the Catholic Church. David remains an active Episcopalian. The participate in each other's congregations.
That was not brought up in the article. Thanks for reminding us of this. Mr Neff did a presentation at the Seminary at Andrews ten years ago. We were encouraged to not ask him about this journey away from Adventism as a courtesy. The sojourn that they are on is the one that Christianity is on--ever since Dr Philip Schaff's 'The Principle of Protestantism' speech delivered three days following the Great Disappointment in 1844.
This is the URL for the book the Neffs' journey is featured in:
http://www.amazon.com/Evangelicals-Canterbury-Trail-Attracted-Liturgical...
And this is the URL for St. Barnabas Episcopel church where David Neff is organist/choirmaster. It has a short bio and photo of him at the organ:
http://www.saint-barnabas.net/OurLeadersandStaff/tabid/95/Default.aspx
Sorry for the confusion during our transitional year.
The quote, taken from "A brief history of SDAF," refers to its meeting schedule from ~1980 to 2010. A few lines later the history states that "At the next meeting of the SDAF Board on January 22, 2010, Gary McCary, SDAF Secretary and Chairman of the Ad Hoc Committee (on the future of SDAF), presented the committee’s two primary recommendations with a goal of attracting a younger and more substantial attendance at SDAF meetings: that SDAF experimentally hold its regular meetings at 10 a.m. rather than 3 p.m. (with the discussion period postponed until after lunch) and experimentally schedule quarterly meetings rather than ten meetings a year."
During the subsequent 2010-11 transitional meeting year there were six presentations. In 2012, quarterly meetings are scheduled, including the May weekend Spring Retreat at Pine Springs Ranch during which five presentations will be given (see www.sandiegoadventistforum.org for more information and a printable registration form). The registration deadline for the retreat is April 6 and about half of the available rooms are already committed. Email your questions to sdaf.org@gmail.com. GMR
Sorry for the confusion during our transitional year.
The quote, taken from "A brief history of SDAF," refers to the number of regular annual meetings from ~1980 to 2010. A few lines later the history states that "At the next meeting of the SDAF Board on January 22, 2010, Gary McCary, SDAF Secretary and Chairman of the Ad Hoc Committee (on the future of SDAF), presented the committee’s two primary recommendations with a goal of attracting a younger and more substantial attendance at SDAF meetings: that SDAF experimentally hold its regular meetings at 10 a.m. rather than 3 p.m. (with the discussion period postponed until after lunch) and experimentally schedule quarterly meetings rather than ten meetings a year." Fortunately, already there has been significant progress toward meeting both goals and the SDAF Board is pleased.
During the subsequent 2010-11 transitional meeting year there were six presentations. In 2012, quarterly meetings are scheduled, including the May weekend Spring Retreat at Pine Springs Ranch during which five presentations will be given (see www.sandiegoadventistforum.org for more information and a printable registration form). The registration deadline for the retreat is April 6 and about half of the available rooms are already committed. Email your questions to sdaf.org@gmail.com. GMR
Sorry for the confusion during our transitional year.
The quote, taken from "A brief history of SDAF," refers to the number of regular annual meetings from ~1980 to 2010. A few lines later the history states that "At the next meeting of the SDAF Board on January 22, 2010, Gary McCary, SDAF Secretary and Chairman of the Ad Hoc Committee (on the future of SDAF), presented the committee’s two primary recommendations with a goal of attracting a younger and more substantial attendance at SDAF meetings: that SDAF experimentally hold its regular meetings at 10 a.m. rather than 3 p.m. (with the discussion period postponed until after lunch) and experimentally schedule quarterly meetings rather than ten meetings a year." Fortunately, already there has been significant progress toward meeting both goals and the SDAF Board is pleased.
During the subsequent 2010-11 transitional meeting year there were six presentations. In 2012, quarterly meetings are scheduled, including the May weekend Spring Retreat at Pine Springs Ranch during which five presentations will be given (see www.sandiegoadventistforum.org for more information and a printable registration form). The registration deadline for the retreat is April 6 and about half of the available rooms are already committed. Email your questions to sdaf.org@gmail.com. GMR
Yvonne Neff's father's first name is Norval, not Orville. He was also at one time president of La Sierra College (now University).
Norval Pease's daughter is LaVonne--not Yvonne--Neff. :)
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Steve, it is interesting that you would post about this at this time. I have been knwriog on some posts on the same topic. One thing that I have been learning about unity is that it has little or nothing to do with externals such as unanimity or uniformity. I actually believe that from God's point of view, unity is already accomplished by the believer's standing in Christ. (I think Brian may have already alluded to this.) The responsibility then lies upon believers to demonstrate to the world what is already a reality. I believe it boils down to this, unity will only be demonstrated when our one and only goal is the glory of God. If we add any mixture of our own agenda or pride, unity will not be seen.