The Word in the Silence

When midnight stuck this January first, I was in a different time zone. My New Year was spent with the nuns of Carmel de la Paix in Mazille, France. There were no imacs, iphones or television sets on which to watch the big ball drop in Times Square. But there was a lot of time. The seeming surplus of it meant that hours (literally) were offered freely, generously to silence in the chapel—simply sitting, being.

Carmel de la Paix is old and it is new. Its roots reach rich soil, dating all the way back to the twelfth century. At that time, pilgrims and ex-crusaders to the Holy Land gathered to pray in silence and solitude at Mount Carmel, and pockets of these “Carmelites” eventually migrated north and west, establishing a significant monastic presence in medieval Europe.

By the sixteenth century, the Carmelite order was ripe for reform. Teresa of Avila, together with John of the Cross, worked to restore Carmel to a deeper spirituality of poverty and prayer. John especially suffered for his involvement in the reform movement, spending nine brutal months as a prisoner of his own fellow Carmelite brethren in Toledo, Spain. The nuns of Carmel de la Paix today find wisdom and help for their spiritual lives in the writings of John and Teresa.

That is their heritage as Carmelites. But the nuns of Mazille are also, as I said, a “new” community. Their presence in Mazille is young, going back only to the early seventies when Brother Roger of Taize requested that a community dedicated to prayer be established somewhere close to his own very active community. From Taize I walked, map in hand on Christmas Day, to Mazille—about seven miles—looking for the “ugly concrete buildings on a hill” I’d been told about. True, against a quaint country landscape, Carmel de la Paix looks somewhat stark. But I think there is a certain monastic style to the modern architecture (by Jose Luis Sert). There is a simplicity, an emptiness that somehow fits the Carmelite charism.[1] I especially liked the chapel, which from the outside looks like a great windowless sarcophagus—cold and impenetrable. But inside there is a space—a protected, womblike space where prayer (a thing so often so frail) can mature freely, at its own pace. 

The nuns of Carmel run a farm, producing all their own vegetables, milk, cheese, butter, etc. (Oh, the butter!) I especially admired the ruddy-faced nun who directed my work in the afternoons—a joyful woman, quick and strong, whose mouth didn’t run like mine but whose quiet movements spoke a confidence I wished I had. She taught me, together with two or three other guests, how to make candles out of cloth, wood and wax, how to clip bushes and rake leaves, and how to tell when a cow is about to give birth. Cows and sheep are sacrificed only for guests at Carmel, whose tables are spread three times a day with the choicest foods. This was hard for me to take as a vegetarian, but the generosity of my hosts enabled me to eat and even enjoy the meaty gravies that touched my vegetables.

Prayer times were where I saw the real fruit of monastic silence. We gathered together in the chapel four times a day to hear scripture and to sing the Psalms and other songs. (How those sisters could sing!) Long pauses punctuated all four liturgies, but at two of the daily prayer times, one pause would last a whole hour. For the first half hour or so, the room would be utterly still. But then, quite often, I would hear a gentle whisper up front where the sisters sat, and I would see one very old little nun talking to her younger neighbor. A dialogue would ensue, ending in the old nun’s quiet for the next five minutes 'til she spoke again. A couple times I watched the old nun rise unnoticed by her prayerful companions, and she would wander sweetly down the line with a smile on her face, patting people tenderly, whispering kind words into their ears. Finally, just before the hour ended, someone would lead the confused but happy old nun from the chapel.

I knew it must be some form of dementia. But what a testimony to the authenticity of their lives! That woman no longer knew she was a nun, or that the Carmelite constitution instructed silence during silent prayer. But her interior self, trained for years by prayer, now naturally reverenced the silence. She felt comfortable with it (at least for half an hour). When she spoke, she whispered, and her speech spread joy, not pain. I was moved profoundly.

The whispers of us guests at meal times were not always so holy. We whispered because we itched to talk, to say something, to be heard. We thought the fact that our voices were quiet meant that we were quiet.

But the silence of the sisters’ lives was different. It was pregnant—pregnant with the Word of God. In Mazille I saw the truth set by Dietrich Bonheoffer that genuine “silence does not mean dumbness, as speech does not mean chatter. Dumbness does not create solitude and chatter does not create fellowship… The Word comes not to the chatterer, but to him who holds his tongue.”[2]

I wonder if the inward silence of those nuns is what gave time at Carmel that transcendent quality I crave so badly in my own daily life. It was honest—devoid of grasping or clutching. And it seemed to usher us all beyond ourselves, into the time and speech of the Father who “spoke one Word, which was his Son… [who] speaks always in eternal silence…” When our inner selves are silent, says John of the Cross, we learn to listen to the timeless Word. And it transforms us. It makes us new.[3]



[1] The term “charism” refers to the special spirit or flavor of a given religious order or community.

[2] Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Life Together, (HarperOne, 1978), pp. 78-79.

[3] John of the Cross, The Sayings of Light and Love, #100 in The Collected Works of St. John of the Cross, trans. Kieran Kavanaugh and Otilio Rodriguez (Washington: ICS Publications, 1991), p. 92. [Emphasis added.]

Sirje - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 07:50

You make me want to be there.

Sirje

DOWN UNDER - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 08:31

me too Sirje

Donna Haerich - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 10:01

I have often wished that the activity calendar of our "youth camps" could dedicated a potion of each year to reflective mediation for those who wish to "be still and know God".

Fay Crombie - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 12:31

I covet and guard my seclusion and alone time but I recoil from an organized version--however, I may reconsider, after hearing about the butter, which is one of my favorite foods (forgive me, Ellen)

Fr. Jim - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 14:14

I love visiting the Carmelites. I wear their scapular. I used to occasionally say Mass for them and I thought they wanted a contemplative homily. I was sure wrong! They loved a rousing come to Jesus sermon. Really wonderful Sisters.

bevin - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 14:33

Not me.

Each to their own - the world would be boring if we all liked the same stuff.

/Bevin

Don Tucie - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 16:08

Let me seize the moment to be the first with this prized quote from The Desire of Ages: "When every other voice is hushed, and in quietness we wait before Him, the silence of the soul makes more distinct the voice of God." Precisely how applicable it is to that Carmel pilgrimage may well be another subject for us to quibble about.

Don Tucie
The voice of one crying

Pagophilus - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 16:39

And what does this have to do with Seventh-Day Adventism?

We are being infiltrated by Jesuits, starting with Spectrum. Believe it.

To the law and to the testimony. If they speak not according to this word there is no light in them. None, not some.

Don Tucie - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 16:53

There you go. Let the games begin!

Don Tucie
The voice of one crying

Carrol Grady - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 18:51

My gay son spent nine months in a Carmelite monastery, but left because he found it dysfunctional. (The prior was trying to make him surrender his will, as a step in overcoming homosexuality). However, he still hungered for solitude and meditation. It is something I hunger for, too, but find it a difficult discipline to attain.

Graeme Sharrock - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 20:37

Silence is a sabbath in sound. Resting from the endless work of wearying words and meaningless chatter, the sacred space of silence opens up an emptiness that freshens our minds and refreshes our vision. Moments of quiet as commas or stops in the long sentences of our lives; the pauses between notes that make melody and music possible. Each night, as we fall asleep, we settle into the silent world of sleep, where we can be taught from the deep reservoir of images and archetypes waiting there. God speaks in chaos as in quiet, but silence may be the only place God can be humanly heard. Remember the silence, to keep it holy.

Graeme

Don Tucie - Sun, 01/08/2012 - 20:42

Nice.

Don Tucie
The voice of one crying

bevin - Mon, 01/09/2012 - 09:07

There are three ways that outside inputs affect me

> They keep me awake
> They interrupt my thinking
> They provide me with things to think about

So, if you are trying to hear a 'still small voice' - be it intution or God - minimizing outside inputs is a good thing.

However, if you are trying to understand reality, then you need a mixture
> Data to guide your search and verify your result
> Quiet to think and to hear your intuition
and, in both cases, elimination of distracting noise

The big problem without the outside data is the invention of huge wrong structures with hidden flaws or with no relevance.

/Bevin

Sirje Walkowiak - Mon, 01/09/2012 - 09:24

Bevin,
It might just be a right vs left brain thing. but don't you think an EXPERIENCE includes more than evaluation of information? Being an SDA might also play into this. Most/all people join the church based on information (we call it exegesis), but not all valuable things in life are based on outside information, as in TV ads, where the most memorable (whether positive or negative) are valued.

I would conjecture that the most valuable experiences and decisions in life have little to do with outside information coming to your attention - I mean, do your kids have to do a song and dance to get your attention and devotion?

Salvation by information is not very meaningful. If we are to evaluate Jesus conversation with Nicodemus, we would have to ignore it completely, based on your idea of valuable experiences.

Fr. Jim - Mon, 01/09/2012 - 09:59

Pago, they are everywhere. Check under your bed.

Carol, it sounds like they were doing exactly what Carmelites are supposed to do, surrender ones will to God. Perhaps the problem was not with the Carmelites.

bevin - Mon, 01/09/2012 - 11:41

Sirje, you are right.

It is also important to shut out the loud noises of things that are not important to you so you can hear the things that are quiet but dear to you

/Bevin

LaMoria - Thu, 01/12/2012 - 22:11

At least Spectrum is consistent with its apostasy and apostate articles. Nothing new under the sun here!

Definitely not representative of true adventism or the bible.

Pyalie - Thu, 01/12/2012 - 22:29

LaMoria,

Let me ask you something. 99% of the population regularly spend multiple consecutive hours in silence, sometimes multiple times a week. They are watching movies/TV.

Would you rather people spend silent time contemplating the gratuitous violence and wonton disregard for humanity that is often depicted on the silver screen, or would you rather they sit in silent contemplation on the Word of God, communing with Him?

Or perhaps you'll find some gnat to strain, regardless...

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Ms. Davies,

What an envious way to enter the New Year. Thank-you for a thought provoking and introspective article.

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1 Corinthians 13:13

Africanviolet - Fri, 01/13/2012 - 03:28

Graeme, loved your comments about silence and solitude. "Silence is a sabbath in sound". Beautiful!!
Thanks.

ApacheNL - Fri, 01/13/2012 - 07:34

I thought our ancestors sacrificed their lives in order to defend their beliefs in the scriptures and their condemnation of the old dark ages spirituality of monasticism, silence, solitude, mysticism.

I thought Martin Luther the zealous monk, discovered that righteousness and the cleansing of a guilty conscious comes by faith in the Savior, and not by 'spiritual excersises, contemplation' and other monkish practices.

Why in the world are you promoting this drivel and promoting going back to dark ages spirituality. Who on earth arte 'teresa of Avila' and 'St John of the Cross', I've never read about them in the acts of the apostles nor are their letters incorporated in the New testament. I smell apostasy.

ODS - Fri, 01/13/2012 - 10:19

Ironic that in the same Spectrum that announces “an initiative called ONE in Christ” that is designed to make women equal in ministry (which I totally approve of), we have an article that glorifies the Carmelite order! The bishops (men) who run the Carmelite order keep the nuns (women) locked up and silent, separated from family and friends. Instead of seeing romantic charm in the Carmelite contemplative life, I see superstitious abuse of women!I

Joelle - Fri, 01/13/2012 - 20:01

This is beautiful, beautiful. Whets my own appetite for silence and sacred, earthy places and gentle people.

Pyalie - Fri, 01/13/2012 - 23:49

gnats gnats gnats and trees for the forest....

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1 Corinthians 13:13

Karen Sue Kotoske - Sat, 01/14/2012 - 01:20

Rachel,
your reflections on time spent at de la Paix bring me to silence, and nearly to tears because of the deep moving word painting you made for us. I feel myself at His feet, brought closer by your words. I cannot thank you enough for writing your moving account. I sorry for those who respond with their mean remarks. God knows their hearts. Below their misunderstandings, they are, we pray, also seeking The Way.
Karen Kotosken time spent at de la Paix bring me to silence, and nearly to tears because of the deep moving word painting you made for us. I feel myself at His feet, brought closer by your words. I cannot thank you enough for writing your moving account. I sorry for those who respond with their mean remarks. God knows their hearts. Below their misunderstandings, they are, we pray, also seeking The Way.
Karen Kotoske

Rachel Davies - Sat, 01/14/2012 - 05:58

Carol,

I'm sorry your son had a difficult experience with the Carmelites. The particular community I visited in France was quite open, and I wonder what his experience would have been like there.

ApacheNL,

I wasn't trying to promote or defend anything. I was simply sharing an experience.

I think it might be helpful for some of us on this thread to revisit this article: http://spectrummagazine.org/article/dave-thomas/2011/10/14/and-be-kind

Robert Forquer - Sat, 01/14/2012 - 07:31

Rachel,
Thank you for sharing a small piece of your life and what you have been able to experience. I wish I had the skill and ability to share some profound encouragement with you. Let me simply say that you are one of the most beautiful persons I have ever met; Your passion and desire to seek God where ever He leads is so fresh. I picture Jesus smiling with joy as He watches you drink in every detail of what He is showing you.
I so appreciate the peace you describe. I struggle constantly with trying to quiet my mind and be still...

LaMoria - Sat, 01/14/2012 - 09:14

Ms. Davies

What I prefer is of no importance. What God would prefer is that the straight truth be preached. Reflective meditation is not from God but the result of eastern and catholic teaching. To exchange one evil (violence on tv) to another evil (spiritual formation) makes no difference to God. Sin is sin. 99.99% of the people at Noah's time perished. Just because the idea or practice is popular does not make it less sinful.

David JIB - Sat, 01/14/2012 - 10:00

RE: ApacheNL - Fri, 01/13/2012--“I smell apostasy”

Rachel Davies, thanks for sharing your experience, I do not smell any apostasy—that has to do with the heart and a judgmental attitude. In visiting the Carmelite order, I see you fulfilling a need for quiet meditation that our SDA church tradition has little time or use for.

Adventists with their lopsided emphases in certainty for doctrine and prophecy could improve their church spirit by listening to others. Such as The Dalai Lama who describes Holiness as community where love for family, friends and neighbors is expressed in acts of kindness, compassion, peacefulness, equity and habits of self-sacrifice for the good of humanity.

Pyalie - Sat, 01/14/2012 - 10:12

@Fr. Jim: "perhaps the problem wasn't with the Carmelites"

What are you trying to say?

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1 Corinthians 13:13

Fr. Jim - Sat, 01/14/2012 - 10:46

Apache, I didn't read about Luther or Ellen White in Acts either.

Pyalie, perhaps he did not have a vocation. If he did not wish to surrender his will to God in the Carmelite order then he wasn't called to that life. The Catholic Church teaches that homosexuality is an objective moral disorder and hence dysfunctional. If you cannot overcome homosexual tendencies and they are deep seated then you should not be ordained. We have become extremely careful about who we ordain.

LaMoria - Sat, 01/14/2012 - 18:28

This website is catholic to the core. it has nothing to do with the spirit of prophecy and the bible. i think it would be a good idea to start an "alter" website against Spectrum and its apostate teachings under the guise of adventism. Most of the respondents are either catholic, ex-sdas, evangelicals or first day worshippers along with your token secular humanists. I'm curious how the gc can allow spectrum the use of the sda name when everything about Spectrum is apostasy and deceit.

Im sure the moderator will delete this post but it needs be said.

Bill Cork - Sun, 01/15/2012 - 06:55

Someone said ... "Reflective meditation is not from God but the result of eastern and catholic teaching."

Nonsense.

From my sermon yesterday ...

Prayer doesn’t always have to be talk. The same awe that inspires the angelic hosts to praise can also strike us speechless. Think of the hymn we sing, “Be silent, be silent, a whisper is heard. Be silent and listen, Oh, treasure each word. Tread softly, tread softly, the Master is here; tread softly, tread softly, he bids us draw near.” That hymn draws upon texts like these:

Job 37:14 Hearken unto this, O Job: stand still, and consider the wondrous works of God.

Psalm 4:4 Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still.

Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God

Habakkuk 2:20 But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before him.

Ps 62: 1 For God alone my soul waits in silence; from him comes my salvation.

And I would include here another text, from Romans 8:

Romans 8:26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Prayer does not have to be a matter of us coming up with words. But it is not mere silence. It is not empty silence. It is time spent with Jesus. As in the story from Luke 10.

38Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house. 39And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word. 40But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. 41And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: 42But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

In our silence, we don’t focus on the words we might speak, but meditate on his word.

Psalm 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

Psalm 63:6 When I remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on thee in the night watches.

Psalm 77:12 I will meditate also of all thy work, and talk of thy doings.

Psalm 119:148 Mine eyes prevent the night watches, that I might meditate in thy word.

Psalm 143:5 I remember the days of old; I meditate on all thy works; I muse on the work of thy hands.

So don’t be afraid of the term, “meditation.” There is Christian meditation. It is different from transcendental meditation, or the practices of Hinduism or Buddhism. But it is meditation. We can’t avoid the term, or be afraid of the term. It is a Biblical term, and it means silently reflecting on what we know of God’s word.

Another word that scares people these days is “contemplation,” and “contemplative prayer.” Most of the folks using the term mispronounce it as “contemPLAtive.” But it is “conTEMPlative.” Some critics dismiss it as “Catholic.”. Well, yes, the term was coined by the Catholic church. And since it was, if we are going to talk about it, we should look to see how the Catholic church officially defines it. Isn’t that the most fair way to start? And this is what we read in the official source of Catholic teaching, the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

2709 What is contemplative prayer? St. Teresa answers: "Contemplative prayer [oracion mental] in my opinion is nothing else than a close sharing between friends; it means taking time frequently to be alone with him who we know loves us."6 Contemplative prayer seeks him "whom my soul loves."7 It is Jesus, and in him, the Father. We seek him, because to desire him is always the beginning of love, and we seek him in that pure faith which causes us to be born of him and to live in him. In this inner prayer we can still meditate, but our attention is fixed on the Lord himself. …

2715 Contemplation is a gaze of faith, fixed on Jesus. … This focus on Jesus is a renunciation of self. … Contemplation also turns its gaze on the mysteries of the life of Christ. …

2716 Contemplative prayer is hearing the Word of God. Far from being passive, such attentiveness is the obedience of faith, the unconditional acceptance of a servant, and the loving commitment of a child….

That may be indeed Catholic—but where did they get it? I think they got it from the Bible. You know, they read it, too. And as the Catholic church defines contemplative prayer, I don’t have a problem with it.

The bottom line is this: We need to get our focus off ourselves in prayer. We can’t worry about what we are saying, or not saying. We can’t think about techniques of breathing and body posture, and such silly things. We need to look at Jesus, and hear his word, and think of him, and rest in silence in his presence. THAT is contemplative prayer, and yes, it is Christian, and yes, it is Biblical.

And compare it with what Ellen White taught in Desire of Ages, page 83:

“It would be well for us to spend a thoughtful hour each day in contemplation of the life of Christ. We should take it point by point, and let the imagination grasp each scene, especially the closing ones. As we thus dwell upon His great sacrifice for us, our confidence in Him will be more constant, our love will be quickened, and we shall be more deeply imbued with His spirit. If we would be saved at last, we must learn the lesson of penitence and humiliation at the foot of the cross.”

So, pray! Pray without ceasing! Pray how it suits you—look to Jesus. Praise him. Enjoy his presence. Plead your case, even if you say the same thing again and again in tears. Just pray!

Brenda - Sun, 01/15/2012 - 09:53

In my opinion silence is overrated, at best.
I recently watched BBC documentary The Big Silence in which abbot Christopher Jamison, a Benedictine monk invites five people to start using the silence in their busy lives and monitors their progress over the two month period. These people are mostly agnostic, only one is a believer. He takes them to his Worth Abbey to spend a weekend in quiet and contemplative prayer and then to an eight day Jesuit retreat with the total immersion in silence and spiritual guides. Their lives are somewhat changed. One of the participants actually hears the voice of God telling him that he was always there in his soul. The other also has direct contact with God during the practice. They have counseling sessions that resemble one with psychiatrist. And everything is attributed to the Big Silence.

Father Christopher says: "Many of the world's religions believe there is one simple path that leads us towards God. It's called silence."
He then explains: "It is not a spiritual bath or tonic. The reality is very different. We bump into our deepest selves."

What I found really interesting was that during three hours of documentary no one mentions Jesus, cross or repentance. Way to God is through the practice of silence. Today Protestants mostly think that we could just bring silence into our already existing Christian lives and deepen our relationship with Christ. But as abbot Jamison says, most of the other religious traditions understand silence as something that brings us to God (with or without Christ).

Silence is the path that leads us toward God.
In silence we find the truth about our deepest selves and God.
The Big Silence transforms the life...

As much as those who advocate silence are trying to negate it, silence tends to substitute the need for Jesus Christ.

Pyalie - Sun, 01/15/2012 - 11:06

"If you cannot overcome homosexual tendencies and they are deep seated then you should not be ordained. We have become extremely careful about who we ordain."

Why? Because of homosexuals or because the clergy had become a safehaven for pedophiles? (Not to be conflated with homosexuals, of course).

It is mystifying how anyone with any sexual orientation can dein to call another sexual orientation "deep seated tendencies", as though heterosexuality is somehow innate rather than a "deep seated tendency" too. What stubborn blindness!

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1 Corinthians 13:13

Fr. Jim - Sun, 01/15/2012 - 14:13

LaMoria, Catholic to the core? As a Catholic I can assure you that is not the case.

Brenda, to listen for that still small voice you need silence.

Pyalie, The Catholic Church teaches that heterosexuality is normative and that homosexuality is an objective moral disorder. We see your view as willful blindness to natural law. The connection between homosexuality and pedophilia is readily apparent. Unless you are blind.

Brenda - Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:03

Fr. Jim,
you can hear the small voice without the specific practice that leads to inner silence. You just need to listen to your conscience.

Fr. Jim - Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:34

Brenda, your conscience isn't God. That's one of the things you learn by practicing contemplative prayer.

Brenda - Sun, 01/15/2012 - 17:28

I didn't think that conscience is God. But I believe God can use it to speak to us.

You don't have to sink into the silence, to the "center of your being", or by whatever other name contemplative traditions are calling the place where you supposedly meet God.

"When we go to the center of our being and pass through that center into the very center of God we get in immediate touch with this divine creating energy."
"Love is God's Being" - by M. Basil Pennington

Pyalie - Mon, 01/16/2012 - 23:17

"The connection between homosexuality and pedophilia is readily apparent. Unless you are blind."

To quote only one of hundreds of studies proving the erroneousness of your statement - 90% of pedophiles are male, 98% are heterosexual (see: Holmes, W.C. and Slap, G.B. [1998]. Sexual abuse of boys: Definition, prevalence, correlates, sequelae and management. Journal of the American Medical Association. 280).

If you will for a moment not let your oblivious belief get in the way of established fact, you will note that if there is any connection to pedophilia, it is heterosexuality - or perhaps the Catholic priesthood according to your faulty logic.

Anyway, this has gone off topic. I'll defer to those posting on "silence".

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1 Corinthians 13:13

Pia - Mon, 01/23/2012 - 09:12

Wow, I am impressed what vast extent the posts are witnessing. For me it's really sad to read that Christians, who all believe in the same Jesus Christ are not open to each other. Neither all Catholics are open to others! And I am wondering why people are telling that Catholicism has nothing to do with Adventism. Aren't we one in Christ? I think there is much more that associates us than devides us. Isn't it?

Carmel de la Paix to me is one of the most special places on earth! Those sisters are such tough women who bear the world with all their wounds in their heart and soul. It's really not that they are hiding their minds from the world - they are spiritually present at the heart of our world. And they are open. They risk to think, pray and live the uncomfortable way. Rachel, thank you for sharing your experiences here. Walk on :)

Nate - Fri, 03/02/2012 - 21:13

Brenda, I've been following the contemplative movement for some time now. Your comments are spot on. Thanks for great info!

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